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Well written.

What happens if we email you @haymarket? I'm very tempted to give that a try.

I hadn't noticed that. I didn't know I had a haymarket address. I wonder what that's all about.

any chance you could post these as text or do campaign have some strange hold over the content?

What I find really interesting in what you've written is that this is exacty the same model that Daily Candy and the like have adopted to such great/profitable effect.

This was really interesting. I think it's really odd that anyone would see the removal of advertising in favour of advertorial as progress. Perhaps I've missed the point. Of course the "brands as content providers" is a difficult one for a lot of brands to deal with.

I was lucky enough to go to North Korea in 2003. There used to be a limited number of tourist tours each year. I don't think there are any more.

In North Korea, there is only one advertisers. It's the North Korean government - two brands, the "Dear" leader (still alive, Kim Jong Il) and the "great" leader (Kim Il Sung).

And, of course, it's really spooky to have no advertising, and you miss it. God know how Mrs and Ms North Korea work out which sort of breakfast cereal to buy. Somerone probably tells them.

I'd certainly rather know when I'm being advertised to than to have it quietly dropped into the editorial (although they do that to in every book in North Korea).

"God know how Mrs and Ms North Korea work out which sort of breakfast cereal to buy."

they probably get the one that tastes the best?

Fascinating. I think it's something we'll see online a lot too because CPM advertising fail to support niche publications (and blogs) and therefore, sites will create special 'programs' for advertisers. We're suggesting it all the time.... just need one of the blighters to take the bait. :)

I think in many ways this is related to the debate that's going on over at Scobelizer about the issue of disclosure. In an increasingly marketing-conscious and cynical world marketers are inevitably going to look for more subtle ways of getting their message across, blurring the lines between marketing and editorial. The Diesel Heidies stunt is an interesting example. Whilst it purported to be real, plenty of people recognised it for what it was - but that didn't matter to them, because it was exciting, fun, brilliantly executed and didn't try too hard. Undoubtedly one part of the future of marketing lies in this kind of collaboration. Whilst it isn't really any different from old school 'media relations' when brands cuddled up with journalists , the brave new world of UGC presents marketers with a much wider range of opportunities - both on-line and off-line. I guess the key to success is going to be a combination of relevance (connecting with consumers) and credibility (not alienating them because they feel they are being sold to). It's a delicate balance - look at Panasonic's poor viral attempt for Viera.

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